Rodger "BECK" | The Noobie and The Doobie Podcast | OTS #25

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On this episode we spoke with Rodger Beck.  AKA...BECK!
*Original Upload Date: July 13, 2022

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He’s from the Church.  She’s from the garden...of Weeden.  They’re from different worlds with the same goal.  To engage & explore the cannabis culture...from both sides.  

Join medicinal user, model & advocate Marijane Baker and non-consumer, former youth pastor & current clean comedian Timmy Boyle for a unique, funny & educational look into the magical, controversial and, for some, forbidden world of weed.  

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Transcript

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[Music] this podcast is for adults only should

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not be used as a meal replacement and may contain nuts

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[Music] hey everybody and welcome back to another episode of the Newbie and the

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Doobie my name is Timmy I am the Newbie Mary Jane I am the Doobie we're very

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excited to have with us today on the spot Roger Becker is what I'm going to call you is just Beck for the rest of

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this hour Roger how are you doing today I just blew it just blew it how easy is it Roger

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are you show me just back no we were rolling with that I know no I know no there's no editing I I blew it but I I'm

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like I'm just going to call you back for the rest of this thing Roger that's what I said yeah you said Roger and I thought

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Roger Rabbit oh yeah pointing in the wrong like my my cameras

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right it actually is yeah I do that all the time because I'm always I glance

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down I'm like Oh my hair and then I Oh wrong side yeah

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well back we want to thank you for joining us and that is the term I'm going to go with this because I I like I

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like The Branding aspect that's why I want people to be calling me Timmy um that's why Mary Jane changed her name to

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Mary Jane because branding is so important wow nobody's gonna really listen to a Janice about cannabis maybe

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Joplin Maybe I know people know me through through just my artwork like if

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they know me personally they'll go hey Roger what's up but if they know me just through my artwork they'll be like oh hey back and that's cool too like then I

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I kind of know oh you know my work how's it going that's how I Define people anyone who knew me before I went into

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comedy which is now what uh 15 years ago they will call me Tim so if somebody

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calls me Tim I'm like yep you're you're a long time associate you know as soon as you go Timmy that's been comedy

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career forward except for the people I don't know if this happens to you um because back sound it's kind of

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there's a generation of people that don't like the nicknames or the like they won't call me Timmy I'll be like

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hey I'm Timmy and Timmy is on every email I sent them and then I get to the venue and they say hi Tim my dad's one

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of them he refuses to call him she won't go they won't call me Timmy they'll call me Tim until they're blue in the face even though everything I have it says

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Timmy on it will you get that too will anybody be like I refuse to call you back that's a nickname I don't like that

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no oh no I've had just people just call me Roger or back Roger James sometimes because that's my middle name okay so I

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got that when my mom was like when I was younger and I was a kid I would get into trouble my mom would be like Roger James

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get over here so that's just sort of like you're in trouble name James so

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that's my more like playful when I'm drawing cartoons and stuff and sticking up the street art that's my like goofy

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playful and then Beck is like a sharp stamp brand yeah yeah yeah I know is that the that's the logo behind the yeah

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I like that logo oh yeah so this my my mannequin has my hat with the logo on it

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that's like the stamp I'm like oh I like that yeah yeah it comes off and you can stick it in different spots and then

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this has a print of like all my cartoon characters on it yeah oh that's cool this was made by Uh custom crowns as a

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company in London that I collaborated with nice um and I've done that over the years a

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bunch of different collaborations with companies it's kind of cool for them to just pop up and say hey do you want to do a cartoon thing and yeah for sure

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let's do it um now I'm very interested in in the cartoon aspect the looking behind there

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and seeing uh uh is that supposed is that that's not bugs or is it bugs it is

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bugs but I I I'm looking them up yeah yeah bugs but I put um it's Roger Rabbit

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and Bugs Bunny so it's Bugs Bunny dressed as Roger Rabbit yeah because it's very it's it's very like very uh

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psychedelic-ish right now I'm going I'm going it looks like bugs but it looks like Roger I don't understand what's Happening Here

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on Halloween I did that as a cartoon I just drew it and then I thought you know what I want to do that as a big painting

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and I did it on this big forefoot panel and then it's just been sitting in my office for a couple years I uh I wanted

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to be an animator growing up I went to uh I went to school for film and television but I always wanted to go to Sheridan

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College I'd heard that that was where uh a lot of the good animators were coming out of and so I'm literally gonna do it

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right now for you I'm just gonna quickly draw this is the very first cartoon character that I was really really happy

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with and I can do it quickly so I can it's kind of like my little party trick I'm sitting at a restaurant where they

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got the paper on the table oh yeah yeah that's fun so it's just this little but it's it's kind of like this guy so I

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don't know if you can see so there he is yeah that's cute so I did that some kind

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like in grade I think it was grade 10 art class or something and it stuck with me so it became my my signature kind of

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thing I draw it on anything it's something that I was able to just do quick I really that that little character goes everywhere for dinner

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with us yes is on is on every restaurant every restaurant the whole napkin you name it do you have a signature

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character or just a logo um that's actually funny because I don't have a signature character I'm kind of

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envious that have some friends in the sticker in the street art community that have a signature character that they

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stamp up everywhere um played with a few different characters but nothing that's really solid like this is my my go-to thing

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right so um have you drawn yourself like do you have your own no that's another

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one I'm actually looking at I did a poster called drawn together so over the past few years I've done for people in

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the community like cartoons of them um and I did a poster of them all together

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and someone said hey where are you I'm like oh I'm not I I actually haven't I did sneak myself into the karma cup

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poster um I think in 2019 okay all right otherwise no I haven't

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done myself what uh where did this journey start we're gonna we're gonna probably gonna

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find our paths like crossing paths in regards to your cannabis journey and your art Journey

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um both of them are I think are equally interesting and then where they intersect of course but uh let's go art

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um do you remember the first uh cartoon character you drew um I don't know about the first but I

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know that somewhere in this tiny messy office I have a Sketchbook from when I

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was 10 and it was in 1993 and the Blue Jays were um in the World Series you're already my

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best friend here this is amazing so I was over at a friend's uh family friend's house and we were watching the

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World Series and I had these um Warner Brothers like Looney Tunes characters and I drew them all in the Blue Jays

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outfits like playing baseball yeah so so I vividly remember that from when I was

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10 and I still have that book somewhere that's awesome and it's funny that I came back around to that as an adult

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because now I still like doing parody stuff like I'll take a famous or popular character and mix it with something else

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thing it's stuck with me for so long and it

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kind of came back around that's cool I actually uh I gotta show I

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gotta show off some of my favorites um I'm a huge fan of dicks I like I like your dicks well you have

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some I have two bags two bags I have the I have the a bag of dicks and I have

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another bag of dicks I think there might be enough now for a third bag of dicks

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oh I will take one of those too in my nightstand beside the bed because that's

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where bag of dicks go I don't know it's that sounds very painful to slam a drawer

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shot on them they're really cool like this one here is Mario

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so let's just for for those of you who are just listening for those who are listening you're missing out this is why you need to

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watch it on YouTube if you look on the back there's like dick farmer and Dapper dick and look Jules dick what movie is

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he from I wanna I wanna I wanna rewind for a second Timmy you might appreciate this the reason that I started the dick

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collection um I was listening to David tell skanks for the memories and

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um he had a joke where he talks about uh I don't want I don't want to butcher it but he says you know how when you

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wake up in the morning uh your dick is wide awake because that heart your Pricks a farmer like it wants to get up and go in the morning and the visual of

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that I was like oh dick farmer that's funny so I drew a dick farmer and then that was the beginning I got a drum old

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dicks like it was yeah and people are like oh you're like the guys in Superbad you just draw a lot of dicks I'm like I

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know you're like I don't just draw a dicks okay did you ever did you ever see

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the uh the Netflix uh mockumentary of yes the the guy who wrote drove dicks on

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cars yeah yeah yeah those other things that people were trying to figure that was that was so well done such a a

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completely infantile kind of thing that was made into this great mystery it was

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amazing did you ever did when you were growing up even though you don't remember you know the kind of the very

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first moment but did you ever think one day yeah I will uh I'll draw dicks and sell them

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what's funny I didn't but thinking back again maybe it all came full circle because when I was eight years old I

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have a vivid memory I found a book in my parents closet The Joy of Sex and I think

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oh this is interesting um and then I started drawing some of

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the vulgar things that I found in book like crude little eight-year-old versions of sexual acts and my friend

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had thought and they flipped out and I was so ashamed of myself and I said I'm never gonna draw anything ever again

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draw more but now I'm also drawing more decks nice wow so now did did your

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parents still they obviously they were against you drawing um sexual imagery at such a young child

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as a young child when you when cannabis came into your world were you also Young uh no actually I was

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older I was it was past my teen so I didn't dabble with it in high school I touched on it a couple times in college

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okay and then it was only after I really got into the workforce and became sort of an adult that I started to play with

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it and I was like oh I like this I really like this and then um a few years back I don't know what

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happened with my body but I just can't have alcohol anymore I can't drink so I sort of slowly meandered over like wheat

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is my thing and drinking if you want does it help does it help your drawing does it help your creative process oh

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yeah yeah and I have to be careful um what kind of strains I use because I

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want something that's bouncy creative social give me some energy if it's like

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couch lock Indica if it's like this is good for insomnia I'm like I can't I don't want to touch it nothing

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yeah yeah I always used to say I smoke way too much weed to smoke heavy like

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like you're saying couch lock strains because I I smoke weed all day long I got to be able to up and function and

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like you're saying I got pep in my step I'm outside I I whenever I see like I saw Snoop

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before the Super Bowl on Sunday he was smoking and oh yeah I wonder what what

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he's because he can't be taking that punch you in the face stuff all day right

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so wait Snoop Dogg smokes weed

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they posted that little like photo of him like a little video and we're all like oh my God that's it I'm gonna stop

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listening to his music now like it's new come on where where does is there a crossover in

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your cartoons in cannabis or does cannabis just part of your private life that helps you in the creative process

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um there's definitely been a huge crossover like I started I think I just started drawing

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funny cannabis things like I did uh the volcano volcano Vape as a cartoon

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character and then I did a bong and another vape and a couple little weedy characters

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um and then I started reaching out or branching out into other things like I think that was probably around the time that I connected with tweedledo Marley

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and Drew who drew her that little joint character which became a sticker and a pen and it's uh it's been around and

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it's pretty pretty popular now excuse me since then I've connected with a lot of

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people it's really snowballed in the camp World saying oh you've done that I saw this can you do something for me

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so would you uh I've talked talked to some other artists about this I always found it very interesting because I grew

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up I grew up in the church I mean that's affected the way I viewed cannabis even um but I grew up in the church and I and

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I need to pause you for a second I just want to say that I've seen a bunch of your episodes and I put it on sometimes in the background when I'm working and I

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didn't know pretty recently that about your your

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history and then that you two were a couple oh okay so that was cool for me it was exciting

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because I you know what you see people on the surface level and you see them at festivals and stuff when you hey how's it going great to see you and you don't

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really know much about their personal life so when I dig a little more and I go oh you're really into this oh or

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you're connected like that's me oh well thank you for listening to us in the background

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um so when I went into uh when I went into comedy I

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um obviously because of my where my faith was and all my connections were in the church and it was a clean brand of

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Comedy churches was primarily where I I performed yeah and the question was

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always um the battle in in my not Fringe of of

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uh in that area of community was are you a Christian comedian or are you a comedian who happens to be

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Christian because Christian comedians were stigmatized for that they would just tell all these

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um Inner Circle Church jokes that if you came in from the community to watch a Christian comedian you wouldn't get any

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of the jokes because it was just Christian jokes yeah whereas I always said I'm a comedian who just happens to

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be Christian my faith never came out in my things I just told funny stories that happened to be clean

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would would I would assume by this by what we've heard so far you would consider yourself a

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um an artist that happens to smoke cannabis as opposed to a cannabis artist

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yeah I think maybe I'm somewhere on the fence because I do a lot of work in the Cannabis field and I like doing it on

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the other hand it's not the focus of all of my work right and does do you feel that because so

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many there is so much stigma especially in in businesses some businesses you know and I know it's true with churches

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but I know it's also true just in the business world there's still a standoffishness it's almost like they won't work with somebody if they find

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out that there's a cannabis connection like does that is that a struggle for

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you as a as a marketing marketable artist to sit there and say look I got to keep my cannabis art maybe more quiet

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because I might lose some of my maybe bigger corporate gigs or whatever I don't know the scope of where your art

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goes but does that ever cross into your mind of going you know Can Can I Be Free

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as a cannabis artist or do I need to kind of pick my spots um I think

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I I I don't think I'm worried about that that much because a lot of the clients that I get come from the Cannabis World

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anyways okay um and some like I have a few clients in the US that come back and I do some work

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for them um so I have a few I think I have a few clients that are pretty consistent and

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they're they're all in the Cannabis world I don't think I've ever felt like I had to hide it one thing I do feel

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like I have to hide is the goofy not so much the dicks but I do another series that's called cartoon coitus and it's

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just classic cartoon characters in dirty sex positions like during sex so we're

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coming back around um if I post those on my regular Instagram page it'll probably get taken

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down because I've gotten a warning before and I was like these are fun and cute and adult humor so people kind of

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like the yeah rinse but I have to be careful because my audience is such a wide yeah yeah drum well I mean like

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there there is a genre for that sort of thing like I mean um I remember watching the movie Fritz

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the Cat when I was probably too young to watch that movie yeah um because I was

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like wait what are they doing I'm like they're cartoon hahaha

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so there is there is a niche for that but um I I met you through the Cannabis

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space um I think the when I actually like I've seen your stuff around I think a lot of us if

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you've lived in Toronto or traveled in Toronto you've seen one of Beck's stickers somewhere yeah one character or

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another right um and I think it was a high Canada or a high can a magazine piece that um I

17:19

think Mellow Moments have done yeah yeah and uh I I've like read it and I was

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like oh my God this guy is amazing I'm like I love your art and I became very

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quick I was like anybody who's anybody in the Cannabis phase has been backed

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I don't want to say that because then people who haven't will be like Oh I'm a nobody no no no maybe they are back

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because this is what happens somebody like me sees all of these beautiful wonderful people drawn in like and

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I'm not saying like like you're saying it's not that if you haven't been drawn you're nobody like me I haven't been

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drawn but you're damn right I want to be backed and that's what you've created is you've created this like this desire to

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have I want to have myself cartoons and not just cartoon I want to have it done by Roger Beck

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it's funny you say that out loud because I'm always in the middle of my own work and I don't really see what's going on

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but I have a note on my board that says aspire to create a luxury item and I

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don't feel like I do but I think the idea that being backed like a verb like

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people want to be cartooned by me is kind of a not a luxury thing but sort of a cool exclusive thing yeah well if you

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don't have um the phrase get backed yeah as your phrase it legitimately should be because

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like yeah you should be a verb yeah you should definitely do that yeah that's uh in fact there should be a

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newbie and doobie dick um no I do like decks but I don't want to

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be one maybe we just have to enter into your Joy of Sex uh compilation oh sure

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sure I do I do want the link to that uh off air it's funny sometimes I'll see the

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connections that I get from people who I didn't even know they have this sticker they've seen a sticker

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um there's a girl her name is LV illustration on Instagram and she just started putting out stickers in the street and it's these

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these paintings that she does and it was a girl licking the CN tower like it was a phallic thing

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um but she actually sent me a picture of one of my cartoon coitus stickers it was Dale from Chip and Dale yeah and what's

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the girl's name from Chippendale you know I want to say chip hat but that's not

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right whatever her name is Gadget Gidget really whatever it is that was like a

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show from the 80s anyways they're having sex and she sent me a picture of her

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friend's fridge and she has that sticker up on her fridge people do that all the time they go hey

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my friend has the sticker on their dashboard is this yours I'm like yeah do you do you think

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um do you think more well okay I know this is true actually I don't even think if you think it more people would be

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interested in the darker dirtier cartoon world than would

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like to admit it's kind of like with cannabis there's a lot there's a lot of secret still a lot of secret consumers but I mean there's a reason why Disney

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porn is Disney princess you know is making a ton you know in fact yes is

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that there there is an industry out there that is very interested although rumor rumor straight rumor is straight

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rumor um people have always said why hasn't Disney taken all those sites down

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um might be behind it actually anyways just a rumor I'm not saying anything careful they're gonna take down this

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episode yeah yeah well Disney does have that powerful Disney characters like on that

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statue or on my water bottle like I have I have they're all over the place my

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office is full of copyright infringement yeah is this is Disney who is obviously

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the big player um are are they a the inspiration for you for me it was Hannah Barbera

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um I had a giant Drew when my parents let me draw on my walls and I had a big Scrappy do and a Scooby-Doo drawing on

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my walls um that I drew myself just kind of you know I'd always use the grid method to

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kind of pull that pull that off but so Hannah Barbera was my I couldn't wait to work with Hannah Barbera I love those

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characters um who was your inspiration um I think Hannah Barbera definitely a

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bit of Disney there was some from all over like I did a Waldo series that was 150 classic cartoon characters dressed

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like Waldo and the first one I chose was Bobby from Bobby's World yeah oh my gosh

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um so that was just like oh something pure from my childhood I want to sort of put that into this

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so it comes from all different places like through the 80s 90s even some earlier stuff like I'll go back to my

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parents favorite cartoons and tech savvy and that kind of stuff yeah do you have a do you have a a favorite

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piece of work that you've done it's a good question like I mean that

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bunny one I mean it's in a prominent place you know people don't just put their cameras up for stuff like this

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shirt though I actually had this I had to set my alarm so I could clean my

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office and put things in a spot that they looked nice like to set the scene

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yeah because that's not there by accident and so and that's a pretty it's a pretty important piece to you that was

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in a corner um yeah no I like it and I've wanted to do

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so usually I'll Draw Something in My Sketchbook digitize it and then I can do whatever with it but I usually make

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stickers sometimes I'll make pins or lighters but I want to start doing bigger bigger bigger stuff like if I

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could start doing murals um I'd like to look into that so larger scale and smaller scale which I've

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started doing with my miniature stuff okay now your stickers are not only found on people's fridges but stickers

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are notorious for just showing up on Street lamps and stuff like that um how does it feel to to be uh many

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vandals first choice of uh putting something on public property you must feel pretty proud about that uh yeah no

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I think it's funny I put them out in places that I think people will see them like a crosswalk button or I don't want

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to obscure any sign text but maybe I'll put it on the corner of a sign and then I've seen that people even try to peel

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my stickers off I've asked people like are they stealing

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these because they they want to keep them or they don't like it and they're like no they want to keep them they have

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people have collections of stickers they rip off the streets yeah it's crazy that's awesome do you have

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any of those no I don't but um I I have I take the whole sign you remember

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oh yeah yeah she just she just takes a sign right to the Trailer Park Boy concert and I was like hey look a sign

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Jimmy parrot was on the ground yeah it was um it was like a filming we're filming Here sign

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no do not park your side yeah but it was clear it was totally broken and snapped off and well old and this the way the

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story we're telling right now is way past the statute of limitations so there's no there's nothing involved here

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um have you ever though I you you have by the sounds of it a very

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um you may think it's small other people may think it's large but a fan base a dedicated fan base to your art I think

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he even knows how large it is because there are people you know what's funny Roger Becca is they just know the style

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and the character like the I look at my Instagram uh follower number and I think

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it's been at the same number for like two years okay look at that I'm like oh I don't

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think anybody knows who I am but right there must be every day someone going hey cool sticker who made that have have

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you ever in the era now where everybody wants to transport their favorite thing onto their body have you has anybody

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come up to you and shown you a piece of your art on them as a tattoo tattooed yeah actually

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um there was a girl who asked me to design a tattoo for her custom and it was red fraggle

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um mash up with Tank Girl oh got that on her leg and

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um she also got have you seen the Labyrinth I'm sure you've seen the Labyrinth yep you know the worm around

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the beginning the little worm um I did that as one of the Waldo characters and she got that also on her

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tattooed on her leg and she said one day she was riding her bike down the street and this truck I

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think I want to say was a kaplansky's meat truck it was started sir uh started

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pacing beside her and she was a little nervous like what's what are these guys doing and she stopped at a light and the

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guy rolls down his window and he goes hey sweep back and she's like cool yeah thanks

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that's awesome that kind of stuff pops up and people tell me these fun stories it's like that's that's worth it

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Let's uh let's let's go have you got you haven't even heard your first your question about cannabis at the beginning

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because we started art but when when did when did cannabis kind of jump back and

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forth between College he's in college I'm I'm curious uh to was it a positive

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initial experience or was it like a oh my God I'm way too high and did you read

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out like no it was actually really good it was it's my first year of college I went to Sheridan for film and television

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production at the end of the year we I I didn't live in the dorm but we went to the dorm

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we had a big party and bounced around to people's rooms and someone pulled out a bong and they started smoking and then

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hey Roger you've never smoked before hey he's never smoked before they all pull me in you're gonna smoke your first bong

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I was like okay okay cool I did apparently it was a big one

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um and I got super chatty and hungry and I remember at one point saying to

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someone like hey I know I'm high because I just won't shut up but it was a good experience I liked it

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and then I didn't stick with it I just was like that was a fun thing to try um

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until a few years after I graduated I was working in post-production

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um on TV commercials and sometimes I would have to work late doing graphics and stuff and it was

27:40

super boring and one of the other guys said hey we're gonna pop out and smoke a joint you want to come sure

27:46

and it made the work like I could focus on the work and it was interesting and I could just go to the

27:52

screen and do do do do what I was doing I was like wow this is cool um so from from there that was probably

28:00

2008 or nine it's slowly slowly ramped up to like

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as long as I'm I'm balancing it properly like it makes me productive and and

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energetic and creative and social mm-hmm uh you went so you went to school for

28:18

film and television um and I would have thought like I share it and correct me if I'm wrong like they

28:24

had they had an animation a good solid animation program right yeah oh yeah um so you go into film and television

28:31

but you've got you're doing you're doing graphic stuff when did you when did you then take that transition from working

28:37

in kind of that that visual medium to specifically becoming a cartoonist

28:45

um I actually it's a weird story I guess I was working in post-production on TV commercials and

28:51

then after that job I decided Well I want to stay in TV but I don't want a ton of responsibility

28:58

I took a PA job on something I took a PA job on some lifestyle shows

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and I started doing PA on some film and TV shows up until 2012 and at that point

29:11

I was on a show for uh six or seven months and it was like 12 plus hour days

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um I went through a really bad breakup so I had this mental craziness at the time and my boss pulled me into the

29:24

office one time and she said hey do you want to come with us on the next show and I was like no I don't I don't want

29:30

to do this anymore so I started doing something it was at that point

29:36

um when I was going through this breakup and I had I don't want to call it depression but I was upset a lot

29:42

um I thought you know what if I die tomorrow No One's Gonna care about me at this

29:48

office they're gonna hire someone new and without a step they're just gonna keep rolling I wanted something where if

29:55

I die tomorrow it's done they can't replace me and no one else is going to

30:01

do the thing that I'm doing specifically so I slowly started going what do I want

30:06

to do what's fun for me and that's where the cartoons and the stickers in the street yard came out

30:12

that's cool yeah it's nice when you can actually not only find your passion

30:19

but be able to follow through with it and and bring joy to other people in the process yeah I think that's one of the

30:26

things too that I that inspired me to start making stickers was I saw a sticker in the street and it struck me

30:33

and I realized for that one moment that all these people were passing by and living their lives but it was just me

30:38

and that sticker and I was like that's cool and I had a little moment and I was like I want to create that for other

30:44

people I want to create like when you see a magic trick and for that one second you're like what and everything

30:50

is stripped away and you're totally vulnerable like I want to create that for people and I have a bunch if they

30:56

see my sticker or a polar pack of stickers out of my pocket they're like oh my God so it's fun to it's fun to see

31:03

that has your has your style evolved like I noticed like with your guys right

31:08

now you've got a very kind of uh uh it's it it's a dark a dark line outline which

31:13

which I in my mind seems to be um a newer art form like they got those

31:19

thick black lines around all the characters now um is it like did your style evolve have

31:25

you always had that same sort of look and feel yeah I when I started out I um

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I wanted to I sort of emulate the older cartoons and emulate some of the artists

31:38

that I liked and I found that doing really thick lines but having all the lines sort of come to a point sort of

31:43

gradually come to a point was like a cool thick sort of bold style that I

31:49

that I was drawn to so I honestly I'm not sure again I'm right in the middle

31:55

of it so I don't really know but I'm not sure that my style has developed that much since I started I feel like I'm sort of

32:02

sort of doing the same thing it has a very and I'm just going I I'm mesmerized I'm mesmerized by by the

32:09

Roger Rabbit bugs mashup quite frankly um like my my inner my inner love of

32:16

cartoon is is like all over the place I know you know we're you know cannabis is still on the agenda but I'm fascinated

32:22

here it it what I like about it is is the crispness of it it's like but it is

32:28

I think it is a blend of an older style and it might be because you've got an older style cartoon character with a a

32:34

well I guess he's not even a newer one I mean my goodness Roger Rabbit was a long time ago but it has it has a it's not

32:41

quite as dark thick dark line as today but it does have the look and feel of an older thing I think you've got a really

32:47

nice blend that that looks up to date but has an old feel to it so that that's

32:52

from just somebody who's you know 50 years of seeing cartoons it's a really

32:57

nice blend thanks no yeah I think that's what I try to do I put a bit of a back style to it but people will recognize

33:04

right away that's a Raj rabbit or that's a Fred Flintstone yeah yeah I like that

33:09

the there are old cartoons like um I love the uh is it Betty no Wilma the

33:15

Wilma cartoons and like and I'm like and she looks updated and she looks fresh she doesn't look like she's from like it

33:22

was a 50s 60s yeah yeah that's yeah that's like a long time ago but those

33:28

are also the the cartoons that I loved and I grew up with you guys probably did too and I did um a few years back a

33:35

series of nine different Flintstone characters all smoking weed and then I turned them into um a pin set and a coloring book and I

33:43

did a torch wrap and some different Limited I think I even did some shirts well the reality is is that uh according

33:52

to what I'm learning about the history of cannabis uh most likely The Flintstones were using cannabis it

33:58

wasn't until long after the Stone Age that they decided they would ban it well it was the Stone Age for a reason oh the

34:03

stoned age nice there you go give me that one what um

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uh I have so many I literally so many questions it's almost like it's a it's

34:15

like an art class I've got a question okay you do that while I'm trying to process because there's so much my

34:20

question I know you were talking about doing things larger scale

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um what's the possibility of getting you down to say graffiti alley in Toronto

34:31

and getting you to do it on a larger scale yeah that would be cool I I want

34:36

to be obviously respectful to the artists that are there because I don't think you can just jump in and go over something

34:42

um but I'd like and I say I'd like to do these things and I haven't really tried

34:47

yet because I'm sure it wouldn't be that difficult but I'd like to find a location where there's some foot traffic

34:53

and people will see it and someone wants to put something big on their wall that people would want to stop and take

34:59

pictures with um and then probably someone to sponsor it because even buying paint is

35:05

expensive and I'm like I wanna I wanna paint a wall but I can't buy the veins so so what I would suggest is um if

35:13

you're listening to this or watching this on YouTube if you have a business and you would like to advertise and

35:21

catch the the Eye of people's attention contact Roger Beck and get him to come

35:28

pay you you pay for the paint you pay him to do the work and I guarantee you

35:33

you're going to end up with a beautiful job that people are gonna walk by and go what's in there and come in your store

35:38

and check it out because they're going to be so wowed but stuck thank you thank you I appreciate you saying that that

35:44

would be cool back you can you can buy that clip from us for a commercial for we'll figure out a financial deal later

35:51

but uh nice you'll get the royalties I did have um a project I was excited

35:56

about there was a it was a blank wall and someone said you can come and put this here and we decided something I would put there and I was like you know

36:03

I have I have an archive of hundreds of cartoon characters that I've drawn let's not come up with something new let's

36:09

just pick something throw it on the wall yeah um it just didn't work out at the time but I was excited to sort of get

36:15

that rolling and oh maybe this is going to be you know up there uh I have seen uh see I'm such a visual

36:22

person which is why I went into film and television in the first place TV is my favorite medium but I have seen some

36:28

some really interesting devices that people have smoked and used to consume

36:33

and I'm looking at whatever you're using and every time you do it it looks like one of those like like New Year's Eve

36:40

blowers oh [ __ ] and I I I can't figure out what that is I don't know if I've

36:45

seen something like that what are you three of them in my purse really yeah

36:51

it's a shatter pen and I think it has a glowing thing on the end so the logo glows when it when

36:58

you pull on it yeah oh yeah yeah that's the thing that caught me I'm like what is he sweet okay like a flashlight dead

37:05

oh yeah yeah so that yeah that glows so the actual

37:10

um cannabis extract is in the top part of it yeah so this that's the battery just the gold right now

37:18

yeah it just yeah it looks weird it looks interesting it also has if you unscrew that little light a little USB

37:25

thing so if you need to charge it up you can do that it's very classy looking I was like what

37:31

has he got it but it did it looked it reminded me of like the little blower the sound the sound makers but then it's

37:36

obviously I thought it would be better than having like a rig and a torch and a bunch of stuff set up here yeah

37:43

more quiet than a torch yeah yeah yeah we interviewed someone to use the torch

37:50

I couldn't figure out what the sound was at first because it had it off screen and I and I'm like what is it like is I

37:55

think his pipe broke like somebody go help them I do that on my family call I'll mute it so you don't hear it and

38:01

then over to the side I'm lighting my torch yeah do you have is this on your

38:06

and another thing that's interesting you pointed over and you've got this wall with this list of things on I always

38:11

appreciate people that have like some sort of dream wall or goals list or whatever that they have on their wall

38:17

um have you yet like partnered with um like a product in the industry to

38:23

have like a character on one of those vape pens or whatever is smoke pen or what's it called

38:29

uh yeah vape pen yeah okay vape pen I got it okay cool um I haven't really we so much white

38:36

space on there it would seem perfect I know right um we did one for karma Cup in I think

38:42

2018 or 19 and it was a it was a Mike my cartoon designs wrapped for a pen but

38:48

other than that uh no oh well okay should I do it now I should write

38:55

this down there's so many Avenues yeah I feel like I should do a commercial for that now if you have a product that has

39:00

a lot of white space on it um get it backed that's what we're saying right get it back that that might be my I

39:06

don't know about downfall but it's one of my things uh I feel like my art is very

39:13

strong but my marketing business side is not very strong so once the art is done and I throw it up on Instagram I'm like

39:19

all right now what do I do I think that's that's true of our like I struggle with that I know lots of my

39:26

comic friends do I think that's just a common problem with artists is that we we ultimately just want to create you

39:32

know we're usually bad businessmen we're usually bad sellers um business people sorry I'm all full of

39:39

art upstairs that I can't sell because I don't even post the money yeah so I don't think you're I don't think you're

39:45

alone and I don't think you're alone in that but I think that's just the the bane of being an artist

39:50

well yeah like that that uh Bugs Bunny and that Mario painting are both like

39:55

four feet or so but my this little tiny office that I have it has it's on the

40:01

top floor so it has slope ceiling and I can't put anything on my walls so those just sit in the corner

40:06

okay they have like a collection of a bunch of stuff that I'd like to put up but I can't

40:12

now I can't see the entire um character on your your right but it

40:20

looks like a mashup of Mario and Milhouse from The Simpsons is what it actually looks like that's a it's a

40:26

Mario Waldo yeah oh the Hat yes oh my God he is huge oh there you go oh

40:34

because it looks it looked more yellow tint um when it was back that's why that's why I thought in Milhouse with the

40:39

glasses I love that I can hear him yeah and I've wanted to do more cutout paintings like that and I got a jigsaw

40:45

and I have wood and I just haven't made the time

40:54

it's amazing what what is it I could see a dirty Santa in somebody's front yard

41:01

what is it about the mashup that you like like obviously you've like you've learned towards

41:07

blending yeah I I don't know when that started it was probably just with the

41:13

Cannabis stuff like when I did the Flintstone series and I said oh I'm gonna do The Flintstones but all smoking

41:19

weed so I I started having fun with this idea of mixing things it's going to be this but it's also this like I did this

41:27

one that's Porky Pig but he's a Toronto police officer yes okay

41:33

um and there's no pants I appreciate that yeah oh of course yeah Looney Tunes no pants

41:40

um yeah so I think that's just been something that I've always been drawn to is taking this idea and that idea and

41:46

putting them together and see if that's funny or if that's novel yeah well um Beck said when he was eight great you

41:54

drew um the blue the the characters playing yeah yeah so even back then you had a

42:02

desire to like take something and be like you know what I see it a little differently and that's where I was

42:08

attracted to to Roger's art is because it's totally different it's not like

42:14

like I'm saying you take Wilma and you change her a little bit it's like oh my God Maxim magazine years ago

42:21

put uh Marge Simpson in the magazine and they had her oh yeah

42:28

yeah of course you know what I mean and like soaking in the tub and I was like I I bought that issue that God love and

42:34

hate nobody wanted to see Marge like that and then other people were like we wanted to see Marge like that you know and it was it's I don't know it's kind

42:41

of fun I like it that was the thing that like drew me to it it's the twist you know yeah and I think that like you

42:48

mentioned before there are probably a lot of people that don't talk about it but they like that sort of thing

42:53

yeah I think they yeah people people just don't people don't want to talk about a whole lot which makes makes

42:59

perfect sense I mean when you're an artist or you know trying to talk about real issues or whatever it's just it's

43:04

so divisive right some people will will look at you know the the dick drawings

43:10

over there no and they'll be like that's you know that's so that's so infantile like grow up like do something you know

43:16

like paint to Picasso you know and then other people are like awesome right do you have a dick also

43:25

no but I now that you're saying that I feel like I should do a Bob Ross stick

43:30

palette

43:36

I love it you have to be upside down no would it be boss cop or cockroz

43:43

oh there's so many yeah okay you're already you're capping in

43:48

you're tapping into to brain powers and things that we try to we try to keep down

43:53

um there's there's just so much potential in art but it is divisive and as an artist it's always hard to kind of

44:00

go you know like anyone talked about cannabis and going you know some people will will people have disconnected from

44:06

me already just by doing a podcast that's positive about cannabis I don't

44:11

even have to smoke cannabis for anybody for some of the people that used to book me to hold back and art can be the same

44:17

way too and you've talked about you know how you've got to keep your maybe the dirtier stuff aside

44:22

um has there been something though that you have done and you put out and it did

44:28

receive some sort of criticism where it kind of made you think and go I like the

44:33

photo you put up of uh yeah like I put up a photo of me copying a Kim Kardashian pose

44:40

where she was you know just you know standing topless you know in like the mirror this was year a few years ago

44:46

like years ago yeah and so I put um I put a sensor oh it was a sensor bar

44:53

so I put a sensored bar across my chest in the same pose and he's a man and I

44:59

got I got um talked to by a couple good friends of mine who who said you know you promote

45:07

clean comedy like that's and I'm not even I'm I'm literally a topless man that you can see on a beach at any time

45:13

with a censored bar yeah but they they were adamant that a clean comic at that

45:20

level of cleanness shouldn't put something like that on their Instagram it was it was really quite interesting

45:25

to me you know you're saying you can't you can't have that as part of your comedy

45:32

Persona or as part of your public Persona right because it was I was had this this High blend and I realized very

45:38

quickly that clean comedy had multiple levels it I could not just

45:44

say I'm clean comedy and this is dirty comedy and and I don't even stand for the fact that one is better than the

45:49

other there's an audience for both but within clean comedy there's probably six

45:55

levels of what people say yeah that's clean or that's clean

46:01

we've been watching Seinfeld revisiting it on and binge watching it and that

46:07

show is sexual innuendo from beginning to end yeah on Netflix in the background and uh yeah

46:15

some of the stuff that comes up I'm like oh Seinfeld talked about that yeah and people but people label them as clean

46:20

because because a club clean is uh no no racist no crude no no f-bombs you know

46:31

that's Club clean right so Jerry could talk about sex you just had to keep it cleaner whereas in my church shows I

46:38

can't even go the word intercourse so so this picture of of me doing a Kim

46:46

Kardashian pose was seen by some and so that takes me to the question for you

46:52

where there's something that you posted and it may and and you got a little bit of of of look and and made you kind of

46:59

go should I have taken that down is that is that is that really the direction I want to go does anything happen like that

47:05

I'm trying to think if it did I think because I'm not very political but sometimes I do some fun cartoon like

47:12

when Rob Ford the the crack Scandal came out um I did a cartoon of Rob Ford holding a

47:18

sign because we're like oh he's gonna get kicked out he'll need to get another job so I drew a picture of him holding a

47:23

sign that said will mare for crack and I made stickers of it and I slapped them around town but a sticker company

47:29

contacted me and said hey can we put up a life-size version of that and I was like oh for sure so it was like five or

47:37

six feet tall down by the Roger Center and I still have a clip somewhere it was on CP24

47:43

um but that and I did look forward in a Ghostbusters logo like no no Ford Ford

47:50

musters okay I slapped that around and I saw some people like give me crap for

47:56

that but it's not anyone that I know I just saw some comments yeah yeah absolutely didn't give me [ __ ] for

48:02

anything I've done I'd love to hear it yeah it's hard it's hard though to to tackle some of those issues with with

48:09

any art form whether it's verbal or drawn you know it's like you know you got stuff you want to say about politics

48:14

but you know it's it's so emotionally charged that sometimes it's better to just sew Bugs Bunny mixed with Roger

48:20

Rabbit true true but I feel like I'm not I'm not really a political person anyway

48:26

so like I also did a Doug Ford but it was just a cartoon dog and then he had a

48:31

shirt and tie on he looked like it's obviously Doug Ford as a dog with a little dog dish and it's cute but I'm

48:37

not saying I hate Doug Ford and I'm not saying I love Doug Ford it's just something fun that I wanted to do exactly please tell me you labeled that

48:45

one dog Ford yeah yeah I think that's that's where I try to

48:51

tell people listen they say look I'm not you know if if I if I post and I I try I

48:57

live by the rule up until just recently and and it's gone a little bit Haywire but I you know no politics you know no

49:04

religion like it was just let's just I just want to do comp like I'm just going to do comedy about life and not going to touch those topics

49:10

and but when you do post something that's political um I found that even if like you said

49:16

even if you're not making a statement one way or the other the people on either side will read the statement yes

49:23

yes right and that's where it gets dangerous and it's like I didn't even make I didn't even make pick a side I

49:29

just put out something that I thought was funny and they they read into that I have that problem all the time when it

49:36

comes to talking to people about cannabis rules and regulations because there are a lot of people that are not

49:41

very knowledgeable and when I explain to them that you can only purchase 30 grams

49:47

at a time and whatever and they're like oh well that's stupid and then they start attacking me and I'm like yo I'm

49:55

I'm just telling you this is how it is and that happens not just in cannabis

50:00

happens with everything like if you don't want to see anything political about what's going on in the world right

50:06

now or especially in Ontario Canada don't go to my Facebook page I've literally had enough and every single

50:13

post is like go watch CPAC stop talking about this go watch educate and I'm just

50:19

like it's it's almost to the point where like who am I educating who am I talking to because like Timmy's

50:26

saying the people that are listening are already in the same already there it's

50:31

like an echo chamber you know and and we're kind of all at the point where we're done with this whole topic of you

50:39

know the government and everything like that so like yeah I just I get frustrated when people

50:44

think that because I'm saying something that I mean it or thinking I'm like no I'm just telling you this is this is

50:50

what it is yeah that's where I try to be careful too because I'm not super definitive on things like that I'm just

50:56

like here are the facts and I'm not picking a side one way or the other like I'm not trying to make enemies and I

51:02

don't want to be divisive with people well how dare you um corrupt Bugs Bunny by blending him

51:09

with Roger Rabbit I was asking the opposite how dare you

51:14

he could be holding a joint or a dildo and that would make it probably worse

51:20

that's true now do you now I might have a carrot I might have missed this even earlier in the conversation and if if I

51:27

did forgive me but you've got this dick collection with do you have a joint collection with a whole bunch of joint

51:32

characters uh no I have characters like like well

51:38

like no it's all those characters they look like dicks but there are people you have like a whole bunch of rolled joints

51:44

no I don't um there was just one that uh was pretty popular that I did for Tweedle Doom that was called the Jolly

51:51

joint and it was just this happy little joint character and um I think a lot of people probably have

51:56

the pin on their jacket yeah do you have one uh I wasn't lucky enough to grab one

52:01

there I think I'll just send it yes please do yeah

52:08

it's it's funny because um I think uh not the last time I seen you

52:13

or maybe it was it was after Tracy curly had passed away and I was Adam and I was

52:19

like the only thing I want from Karma cup that day was I was like I wanted Tracy curly back it was a pin

52:25

um I got there all the pins were gone the only thing I could get was a lighter that you pulled out of your own personal

52:32

stash for me because I was like there's no Tracy

52:38

that was the day I got the bag the bags of dicks and I got like um I think I got bong man and a pin and I was like I was

52:45

devastated but like that's what I mean can I love the Cannabis Community because you've seen how much I wanted to

52:51

get something you know what I mean and you're like okay yeah that's that's what is fun about

52:58

Karma cup and I miss about community events is you see all these people you connect with people there will be a

53:04

handful of people like oh I've done a cartoon for you or you're wearing it on your shirt yeah like it's uh it's

53:10

humbling and it's really cool so that's why I'm hoping uh that we can start doing that stuff

53:16

again like Karma cup I know that they're hoping to do a festival I don't know what the details are there

53:23

but if if that can happen then hopefully it does because we need that yeah

53:28

um I when I told Timmy uh when I first started introducing him to events

53:34

um we really have only been to a few like Grassroots events and then we did

53:39

Lyft uh once indoors and then we went last year where we did Outdoors

53:46

um but you went to Karma Cub yeah and it was a much you can attest to this it's a

53:52

much different vibe um like a lot of the other Grassroots events we did were on the outskirts of

53:58

Toronto so it's it's like in a field when it's very Mucky and like the nice thing about Karma cup is it

54:05

feels like when you go to the mall it feels busy it's bustling it's like yeah yeah yeah I can I get that for sure I

54:11

haven't been to any other festivals but I know what you mean I've I've heard and seen some things where it's just kind of thrown together in a field and you're

54:18

like what's going on yeah well hopefully we can get to those again

54:24

um there's a lot of non-artists who I noticed your tattoo on your

54:30

forearm um I feel like I feel like when I do these interviews because because we come into it and I feel like I'm a comedian

54:36

who just trying to work the room because I I often like spend you know so much time talking about things that I'm seeing in people's backgrounds just

54:43

catches my eye but so um there's a lot of non-artists that want to create their own tattoo

54:50

um and then they bring it to the cartoon the artist and they're like can you draw this and the artist you sometimes probably going that's horrible but

54:56

you're paying me all draw that on your thing and then but but real artists then

55:02

also hit a thing of going well I'm not going to put my own art on me that's a little bit pretentious do you have any

55:08

of your own art on you um I actually have a Toy Story [ __ ] stamp

55:14

no I don't actually I don't um we shouldn't have denied it you should have left it there that would have been a

55:20

great clip I've wanted I've wanted to convince

55:26

someone to get if they'll if they'll get it I'll draw it it would be like probably buzz in the Middle with the

55:32

wings out and then maybe some of the little aliens and like the slinky dog and stuff all across the back I would do

55:39

that I mean I wouldn't get it but I would drop it you wouldn't do it you wouldn't put any of your own art on you

55:44

I don't think so I don't think is that just an artist decision or like like were you sitting

55:50

there saying yeah like I ah to carry my own art on me that seems a little I think I've just never had an inkling

55:56

like my first tattoo I spent a long time I spent a while trying to think of what

56:02

I wanted to get and it was very personal for me and then I got another tattoo that was uh a love you know love bot

56:08

it's a Toronto uh little street art character but I got a low bot heart uh

56:13

on my leg because that was also special to me but I don't feel like I I've done anything that's special enough to me to

56:19

get it stamped on me do you only draw um fictional do you do you draw a human

56:27

form human light like real life um I can I just haven't really because

56:33

it doesn't it doesn't appeal to me you don't like humans yeah

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cartoons are more fun they are they're just inhuma or they're in cartoon form like you've seen them Mellows

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oh yeah I know yeah I I have friends that actually like they collect your like not just stickers but they collect

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your stickers because they want their friends oh yeah yeah yeah collect them all

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collect all your friends that's what it is playing cards and and like most of

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the ones I've done were committed that people got so I don't want to step on anyone's toes and go hey I'm gonna sell

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a pack of stickers or anything but I think it would be cool to have a whole collection of all the all the Cannabis

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characters you should see if you should you could get trading cards I think we all would buy packs of them and see you

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know if we could create a whole a whole team I think that's one of the challenges is

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that's a good idea and I'll write it down and then it'll be on a list of like a thousand good ideas that I have that

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you can never get to there is a a very popular

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um verse phrase uh in the church that talks

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about a prophet is never accepted in his own home so basically you know

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um you know the person that that is trying to preach the truth the people who held you as a child is always going

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to see you as the child it's like stop it Jesus you know like we literally you know we saw you play in the sandbox we

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don't want to hear from it as a comedian you know very few of my extended family have ever come to shows I don't know if

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that's because they they don't like they don't like my comedy or if it's just because it's like yeah it's Timmy we've

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seen him you know tell jokes at at Family parties or whatever do do you

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have family that Embraces and comes to you and say listen hey can you can you do this card up for so and so we you

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know where your family Embraces your art and wants your art or are they just kind of like yeah yeah D Doodles on the side

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um I think it's the same it's like uh they knew me as a kid and it's nothing special so yeah no I don't really have

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any family members ask me to to do cartoons or anything for them

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but I still get people who ask me it's like what so what else so what else do you do you do I know you do that little

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comedy thing and I and in my head I'm like I paid my bills for a decade doing this little comedy thing yeah like like

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it's not like it's like what you're saying it's just kind of like yeah yeah it's like some somehow people don't take

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it seriously if it's not a nine to five check-in checkout right here's your paycheck every two weeks they're like oh

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you're just goofing around yeah yeah they're they're like especially and I'm sure you know and I won't get into

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specific numbers with you for your art but I mean you know there's us there's a uniqueness

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um of Art and it's like when people say oh so wait so you get paid blah blah blah and you just stand on stage for an

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hour it's like no I get paid blah blah blah because very few people can do what I do for an hour on stage that's why I

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get paid blah blah blah yeah yeah so it's like it's like you said you did nothing all week no I ran a business all

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week to allow me to go do that one hour stage thing that gave me money to pay my bills yeah they don't see the 90 of the

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work that goes up to the 10 percent of the public facing here's what I'm doing yeah yeah it's interesting because yeah

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they would look at at yours and be like so he just dropped so he draws all day but but I will say I've had nine to five

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jobs I've had part-time jobs you know I've worked two part-time jobs to make a full-time job because I couldn't get a full-time job

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um but I've also traveled with you and I've done the tours with you and

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um I have seen this man work harder than anybody I have ever met there is when

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you don't have a nine to five job guess what is 24 7. yeah yeah I remember

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um someone telling me a few years ago they were like I don't keep office hours I just get [ __ ] done constantly

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right yeah absolutely kind of a good motto but I think you have to balance it you don't want to be going full charge

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at 11 o'clock at night that's yeah yeah I know an idea that you can at one o'clock you know I'll answer an email or

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I'll draw a picture or something well it's good that you have what what is considered an office space and I and I

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didn't for almost I I'm just starting to develop one now um because it is tough when you when you

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wake up you go to your kitchen you have breakfast and then you go you you open up your laptop and you're still at your kitchen table and you realize that work

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literally never stops you have no space to say I'm working I'm not working yeah

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and that especially at home that split is tough because you can sit there and open your laptop and then go oh I have

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to do some dishes or I got a sweep or something like just all the other things that pile up yeah yeah that makes it

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difficult um back I want to thank you so much for being on here I know I mean from the moment we started doing this show uh MJ

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has been saying we got to get back on we gotta get back on we even had one of some of your art when we were in our in

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our studio when we first started doing the show some of your art was up on our uh on our Shelf immediately being

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displayed so to have you here with us uh today uh it's a great great pleasure thank you so much for spending time with

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us thank you I really appreciate it I'll have to send you a little something else to put up on the wall oh that would be

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awesome I think you should call that uh the the painting behind you I think you should call that what's up Beck

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yeah I like that thank you all right well we'll figure out the financial applications of that as well yeah I

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already owe you royalties for for something else I think it was the get that the commercial yeah yeah

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we're both making a whole lot of money going forward off of this conversation back hopefully

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uh MJ anything any final words um I'm looking forward to collecting the trading cards

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nice yeah let's see what we can do back where uh where can people find you what's the best way to connect with you

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um and find a way to get your art out there more more often Roger James that's Roger with a d on Instagram you can see

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me in my work and I also do Miniatures at a little bit of Beck which is not

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cannabis theme but still creative and fun and too many Izzy because you know Idle Hands with the Devil's Playground

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um yeah so Roger James on Instagram is the best place to find me and uh give me a shout that's awesome thank you I forgot about

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those Miniatures those are cool yeah definitely go check that out we don't have any more time we gotta go check

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that out well we'll do a we'll do a second show a second episode on the on the miniature life of Roger Beck as well

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sounds good all right thanks so much back appreciate it thanks so much talk to you guys soon

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